Sometime ago I bought a Canon 50mm f1.8 LTM lens, also known as Serenar. It had some haze on the internal elements, but between one thing and another it took me a while to get to it and clean it. I managed to remove the haze from all the optical surfaces but one.
One of the internal elements has some haze that doesn’t come off with anything I’ve thrown at it. I tried H2O2, H2O2 with windex (for the ammonia), windex, alcohol, acetone, lighter fluid. None of these worked. My guess is that it is either a coating damage, in which case there is nothing to do, or perhaps it is the doublet that is separating (though it looks to me the haze is on the outside surface, not in between the elements).
I took some pictures of the steps to take the lens apart, since I couldn’t find much online. To take this lens apart you will need a rubber tool. Also, I didn’t lubricate the aperture blades at all after cleaning them. I’m not sure if that’s the way to go, but even the smallest amount of oil was migrating on the blades so I decided not to do it.
Use a rubber tool to unscrew the front ring
Use the same rubber tool to unscrew the front element
As you can see, there was haze and what appears to be fungus on the inside of the front element. I used Hydrogen peroxide mixed with ammonia to clear the lens. After that, I used lighter fluid and a cotton swab to remove any residues. I also used a clean microfiber cloth to wipe the lens clean. After that, I used an air blower to get rid of the lint left behind. The front element came out perfect, nothing could be seen with the flashlight test.
With the spanner wrench, remove the outmost ring that keeps the mount attached
The mount part of the lens can be slid off
The mount, with the helicoid, was working fine, so I didn’t take it apart any further
Remove the spacing ring and don’t loose it
You can now unscrew the rear element
Remove the three screws just like the one in the red square in this picture
Remove the pin that controls the aperture
Now the front element mount can come out of the aperture ring
If you want to clean the aperture blades (They were very oily in my lens), remove the brass retaining ring
Now you can remove the slotted ring that controls the aperture
With the aperture controlling ring off (on the left) we can now remove the blades
It might be easier to remove the blades when they are in this configuration. Don’t worry, it looks scary but it is not that hard to remove the blades and put them back in. Just use a good set of tweezers and take your time
One of the blades
You can also, if you haven’t done it already, remove the last doublet. this is the one that has marks on the coating
The blades cleaned and ready to be reassembled
The blades reassembled. Compare this picture with the one before cleaning, and you’ll see how much oil was on them
The aperture ring (the one you move to change aperture once the lens is fully assembled) was stiff, so i decided to take it apart. Remove the screw with the red arrow.
Remove these two screws. The brass spring comes off and be careful not to loose the metal ball that the spring keeps in place. Be sure to scribe the screw position before removing them.
Remove these 4 screws. As before, scribe the position of the screws on the brackets they are holding, so you will be able to put them back in the right position when reassembling.
Remove the last two screws and remove the slotted piece
Remove the brass retaining ring
Now the two pieces come off. Clean them and lubricate them slightly with some grease.
Might be a long shot that I’ll get a reply so many years later, but how does the front element get removed from the aperture ring? Do I thread it out or push it out once the proper screws are removed?
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Hi Jordan, If I remember correctly I used one of those rubber tools (https://www.amazon.com/Japan-Vacuum-Camera-Opener-Repair/dp/B0013HFYKK) to unscrew the front ring. It’s been a while so don’t quote me on that! 🙂
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I was referring to the black housing that cradles the front element. I was able to get it out with a bit of downward force though! Now I’m just struggling to remove the doublet from the black housing.. Thank you for the reply though! Oh, and excellent post!
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Hi, The front housing has a small 1mm diameter screw on the side opposite the aperture dot. Used to secure the fromt ring frmo unscrewing and dropping the front element. Just disassembled everything. I have the same experience as the author. I have haze. This lens is based on Zeiss Planar design. It has 6 elements. 3 infront of the aperture, 3 after the aperture. Considering the front element as the 1st element, the haze is found on the 4th element on the front facing side. The rear facing side is glued to the fifth element. The 2nd and 3rd element has a gap inbetween, but are also held together tightly with glue to maintain the gap. I have soaked the 4th and 5th to separate them so I don’t damaged the 5th element while working on the 4th. The hazy side was at first quite rough. Used various techniques, and also a hydrocarbon surfactant normally used for aerospace exterior cleaning. Soaking in that removed the rough matter on the lens element surface, but the haze stays…. The rough surface is now smooth and reflects like crazy, but the haze stays!!!! Seems that the haze is just right underneath the surface or a busted surface coating. Have been polishing with nanoparticles and every diluted metal polish and still the haze stays…..running out of ideas…..Anyone has a solution? I am still persevering….still waiting for 0.5um diamond paste to arrive through the mail to start polishing again. Tough haze!!!
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